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Deer Calling Tips - E.18 "Understanding Rattling 101"

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welcome to deer societies calling tips

so we've learned the proper technique on

how to hold the black rack properly and

we've learned the technique and how to

bring the black rack together to start

to make the sound your grip strong grip

on the bottom I'm actually not even

really holding on to that but my thumbs

do go up above okay my call or my rack

comes together at the top my hand stays

separated and then I just turn and twist

and the reason we do that is because

when deer come together they're not Rams

they're not coming in here going Bam Bam

Bam what they're doing is they're coming

together in an initial lock and they're

pushing and they're trying to beat each

other up by strength and they're turning

their heads to try and get good position

it's kind of like you know just a dual

of who's gonna get the best position and

be able to drive the other guy off so

they come together like that and then

they start pushing and turning and and

grinding and that's where you get that

natural sound so when you rattle you

want to sound what you want to sound

just like what they sound like when

they're coming together so you have to

picture that into your mind now let's

talk a little bit about control of

volume here because when it comes to

rattling it's just like any other

calling you have to be able to control

your volume and you there's a time to be

aggressive and there's a time to be

mellow and there's a time to mimic

younger bucks there's a time to mimic

middle-aged bucks there's a time to

mimic and all-out battle to the death so

these are things that you want to take

into consideration when it comes to

technique if I want to rattle lightly

say it's early season and these guys

remember a lot of

these box will live together all summer

long and hang out together they know

each other their buddies during the

summer when it comes time for a breeding

race that's when you start getting that

pecking order they're definitely working

the pecking order at that point so

that's why they have racks is to set

that pecking order so what you want to

think about is as soon as that velvet

comes off is when you can start to

actually rattle if you'd like and if

you're gonna rattle that time you want

it white so how do we get light it's

real simple keep the same technique hold

the rack property holds the same way but

instead of coming together hard are you

gonna do is just ease that together and

just just some light turning I'm putting

very little pressure on this rack at all

I'm just and that's all them deer are

doing if you've ever seen it that time

of the year they just kind of come

together and they look at each other and

then it kind of pull their nose down and

the other one pulls his nose down and

while they're feeding or something in an

area and they just kind of come together

they're not coming together hard they're

not pushing they're not slamming their

heads together they're just kind of like

oh you don't kind of feeling their rack

out you know how many times do I have

maybe they're thinking how big is my

rack compared to your rack and they're

just they're just tickling we call it

tickling and so this can be extremely

effective when it comes to when they're

at that time of year when they're

getting ready to set that pecking order

they may not be pushing each other

around or mad at each other yet but they

might be setting the pecking order and

if you're doing some of that like

tickling and they hear that in their

core area they may come over investigate

what's going on it's same thing with dos

dos come into this they're still with

their fawns they're wondering what's

going on what's going on over here who's

over here now who's in my area maybe

they're just interested what are the

genetics of the Bucks that are around my

core area so tickle rattling early

season light volume

no I'm hardly putting pressure and so

that's light rattling so now let's talk

a little bit about technique of actual

fighting battling and just going at it

you know now what we're doing is we're

fighting for supremacy and that's a

whole different concept

now what aids class dear do that well

you know they all kind of do it it

really just depends on the situation and

the environment you're in it depends on

the age structure of the deer where

you're hunting but when they get mad at

each other and they're beyond setting

pecking order and they're actually

fighting for a reason

it's it's completely different than a

spar or a tickle and feeling each other

out they're mad now and now we're

literally this is a bar fight okay and

that's a good way to look at it because

when you're out rattling that's really

the instinct that you're you're trying

to have happen within a deer is that

when you rattle it and you fight certain

times of the year it's just like a bar

fight or fight at school remember back

in the day fire fight breaks out

everybody comes running to go see what's

going on that's exactly what you're

doing here so you're creating this fight

and you want to make it sound like it's

a fight so now the most important part

of this is your grip okay you have to

have your hands located in the right

spot and down on the bottom of these

tines is extremely important you don't

want to be smashing your hands together

you don't want to be bust

knuckle-busting and stuff like that you

got to watch what you're doing here

having gloves on definitely is something

I highly recommend so when you're

wearing your gloves and you're holding

this rack you're definitely holding way

down on the bottom and you're really

focusing on slamming this thing together

with your hands separate at the bottom

and really letting them have it so you

come in and you come in hard okay

because these deer are mad now so you

don't want to keep those hands

together and smash your knuckles

together you want to twist the wrist if

you will and so you keep your wrist

apart and you come together and you just

boom and you slam it now some of our pro

staff there's a window out there it's

kind of varies but typically it's like

the end of October be the beginning of

November in some places and even way

down south it can be into you know

December January but there's a time a

window when deer are really reacting to

rattling and the fight rattling the bra

rattling and it's that bar fight where

everybody comes running and when you hit

that window you have got to have a set

of these in your hands I've had you know

it's not uncommon a rattling three four

bucks in the morning and within an hour

to some of our pro staff have rattled in

10 deer and one day and that's that

window I'm talking about now one of the

techniques that I noticed that one of

our Pro staff was using is when they

come together them deer come together

hard as he was actually turning the

backs of the black rack to each other

and he could get a lot more sound on the

initial clash by smashing them together

and hitting the backs now the key to

this is to find the right spot for it

okay you want to be somewhere right in

the tiny area right along this area in

in the the frame the main frame and then

you smash those two kind of together so

this is kind of the course smashing area

and you're trying to hit it in the tines

and along that frame and you just just

slap it together and you'll hear the

sound once you get it and you get that

first smash it's that bone-on-bone smash

and then you come together like that so

that's the technique that he used any

rattle in like eight bucks that day so

I'm not going to say it doesn't work

because I watched it work so it's just

something to keep in mind when the deer

are ultra aggressive that's one

technique you might want to try okay

ultra

aggressive now okay if you do this in a

time when they're not aggressive at all

then you're probably just wasting your

time or you could even potentially be

spooking deer so just keep that in mind

now once again fighting technique slam

them things together and then you grind

hard I'm really okay I am really letting

this go

it's slam slam slam and twist and you're

twisting and you're turning and you keep

that top lock now that's the key to it

keep a lock and then you're twisting and

turning the bottom with the top locked

all the time that's the key to it so you

don't bust your hands up and get a

little nick on there

keep those racks a lot of tension but

now keep in mind you don't want too much

strength and tension into your wrists

because then it's kind of like a golf

swing you're not able to release and if

you're not a golfer you won't understand

what I'm talking about but if your arm

if your hands are too too tight and

you're forcing your hit your arms to

push and you're not gonna get as

quickness of a sound but if you keep

those wrists loose but you've got a good

grip but you're able to really turn the

wrist when you lock together like this

okay and then you keep C on my wrist

you're actually turning and staying

loose you get more that you're getting a

lot more kinda time sound when you do it

that way so once again good stern grip

lock the top together strong hands apart

keep the wrist loose and twist until you

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get a lot of that time to time contact

and that's the best way to really that's

the best technique to use when it comes

to a real all-out fight in a brawl the

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